Dr. Brad Miller talks with Deb Krier about facing three different cancers while continuing to live, work, and find moments of humor. Deb shares how a routine mammogram led to a breast cancer diagnosis that shifted from stage zero to stage three after surgery, and later to stage four. She also recounts treatment for basal cell skin cancer and papillary thyroid cancer.

Deb describes building a “new normal” while managing ongoing treatment and running her business. She explains why “fine” can sometimes hide how someone is really doing, and why honest communication matters with friends, family, and care teams. Humor helps her ease tension, but she emphasizes that laughter doesn’t erase fear, difficult days, or the need for support.

Brad and Deb explore:

The shock of Deb’s breast cancer diagnosis and how it changed after surgery

Keeping parts of everyday life, including work, going during treatment

What it means to say “I’m fine”—and when it may be better to answer honestly

Using humor to bring relief without ignoring painful feelings

Deb’s “warrior” identity and the importance of having a supportive tribe

Why medical teams should remember patients can hear conversations nearby

How business leaders can ask for help and give themselves room to navigate a health crisis

This conversation offers:

Encouragement to make space for a full range of emotions

A reminder that support can come from a community, care team, and trusted friends

Ideas for being present for someone without forcing positivity or advice

Deb’s perspective on maintaining a sense of agency through serious illness

Deb shares resources for people affected by cancer, including the Trying Not to Die community and coaching for leaders, at yourcancerwarrior.com. Her story is a reminder that humor and hope can offer connection through hard times—and that no one has to face them alone.